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Bike luggage
What do you have, have had previously or are considering
Are you hard, soft, permanent or quick removable frames, just duct tape a black poly bag to the pillion seat or something else
What are the pro's and con's of your system
What do you have, have had previously or are considering
Are you hard, soft, permanent or quick removable frames, just duct tape a black poly bag to the pillion seat or something else
What are the pro's and con's of your system
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Givi and Hepco and Becker.
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bike luggage...I have used a few different makes of luggage over the years.
Hepco and Becker: I like the look of the Gobi luggage, panniers easy to carry, topbox and panniers were always watertight.
The frames/fixings were solid, but the coatings are rubbish, cracking within weeks and impossible to keep the rust at bay. Same happened with other H&B fixings/frames I had on other bikes.
After years of use, the topbox started to crack on the bottom, at the location of resting on the rack, no complaints at it had been on a few bikes for well over 60000 miles.
Touratech: on the R1200GSA I had the B_M_W panniers (made by Touratart) and my old H&B topbox, I quickly removed the H&B kit due to the coatings failing and got matching B_M_W topbox and keys.
Like most things touratart, very robust and lots of good design features.
Only a couple of negative things, the pannier seal on the left side where the exhaust is, was prone to letting in the rain, also the panniers did not have handles, a pain when taking the panniers into shops...which is a good way to save on plastic bags, but primarily to ensure I did not buy too much stuff for the carrying volume on the bike.
Frames/fixings were all stainless...no coatings to damage.
B_M_W: I had B_M_W panniers on a R1100GS...the pannier at the side of the exhaust would let the water in, also the clam shell design made it tricky loading while the pannier was on the bike.
Currently I have Givi Trekker on order. Two 33L and one 52L
After looking at what is available on the market, while thinking about the future and the possibility of changing or having additional bikesbut keeping he hard luggage, I did a proper review/research and gave a friend's Givi Trekker boxes a good looking at.
I liked the 33L and 46L cases, can be used as panniers or topbox. They have a good "clam shell" opening and also a part top opening design. Good looking sealing arrangement. They have handles (handy for shopping with) and the 33L could pass as a briefcase. Also the 33L is not so wide, so should not hamper the filtering that much.
The 52L topbox is huge, looks like it will take two larges helmets easily...unlike some that say they can but cannot fit two large full face lids.
I have also had two or three normal looking GIVI topboxes which came with bikes, or I bought as used...all did the job at the time with no water ingress.
The H&B and Touratart panniers made the bikes very wide, making filtering tricky, hence my current thinking of the slim Gobi panniers and huge topbox and flexibility of combinations.
Hepco and Becker: I like the look of the Gobi luggage, panniers easy to carry, topbox and panniers were always watertight.
The frames/fixings were solid, but the coatings are rubbish, cracking within weeks and impossible to keep the rust at bay. Same happened with other H&B fixings/frames I had on other bikes.
After years of use, the topbox started to crack on the bottom, at the location of resting on the rack, no complaints at it had been on a few bikes for well over 60000 miles.
Touratech: on the R1200GSA I had the B_M_W panniers (made by Touratart) and my old H&B topbox, I quickly removed the H&B kit due to the coatings failing and got matching B_M_W topbox and keys.
Like most things touratart, very robust and lots of good design features.
Only a couple of negative things, the pannier seal on the left side where the exhaust is, was prone to letting in the rain, also the panniers did not have handles, a pain when taking the panniers into shops...which is a good way to save on plastic bags, but primarily to ensure I did not buy too much stuff for the carrying volume on the bike.
Frames/fixings were all stainless...no coatings to damage.
B_M_W: I had B_M_W panniers on a R1100GS...the pannier at the side of the exhaust would let the water in, also the clam shell design made it tricky loading while the pannier was on the bike.
Currently I have Givi Trekker on order. Two 33L and one 52L
After looking at what is available on the market, while thinking about the future and the possibility of changing or having additional bikesbut keeping he hard luggage, I did a proper review/research and gave a friend's Givi Trekker boxes a good looking at.
I liked the 33L and 46L cases, can be used as panniers or topbox. They have a good "clam shell" opening and also a part top opening design. Good looking sealing arrangement. They have handles (handy for shopping with) and the 33L could pass as a briefcase. Also the 33L is not so wide, so should not hamper the filtering that much.
The 52L topbox is huge, looks like it will take two larges helmets easily...unlike some that say they can but cannot fit two large full face lids.
I have also had two or three normal looking GIVI topboxes which came with bikes, or I bought as used...all did the job at the time with no water ingress.
The H&B and Touratart panniers made the bikes very wide, making filtering tricky, hence my current thinking of the slim Gobi panniers and huge topbox and flexibility of combinations.
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Re: Bike luggage
Current - Work Lenovo laptop backpack
I must remember and put the zips down the side instead of the top case they open up from the top and let the lappy fall out and skid down the road
I must remember and put the zips down the side instead of the top case they open up from the top and let the lappy fall out and skid down the road
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Had givi cases on my vfr750 , used mainly for shopping/transporting, never really toured with them, got shot of them- but they were good, I just didn't get the good of them
Have used tankbags and had a tailpack for a while, oxford 1st time - good quality-roomy enough if you pack judiciously
still use a tankbag on my vfr800, but now have a dry bag with bungee loops,.... still getting the hang of packing it correctly /bungee-ing it so it doesn't move too much etc on the seat cowl.
Have bought a 2nd hand kriega backpack (30L) to give them a try as conventional backpacks/rucksacks don't work so well
Have used tankbags and had a tailpack for a while, oxford 1st time - good quality-roomy enough if you pack judiciously
still use a tankbag on my vfr800, but now have a dry bag with bungee loops,.... still getting the hang of packing it correctly /bungee-ing it so it doesn't move too much etc on the seat cowl.
Have bought a 2nd hand kriega backpack (30L) to give them a try as conventional backpacks/rucksacks don't work so well
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Ventura luggage on most bikes until I got my Explorer that came with luggage in the deal.
I've got a like new Aero-Spada bag with the storm cover if interested???
I've got a like new Aero-Spada bag with the storm cover if interested???
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You can't beat hard luggage to make the bike truly practical. These days, when I am looking at possible future bikes I always check what the options are for fitting hard luggage. If you can't fit hard luggage to the bike or the mounting looks really crap then the bike doesn't make it onto my list.
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I had a Givi E450 top box on my R1 a few times , not the best look but it worked well having it on the rear seat
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You can't beat hard luggage!
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Big Kneed Al (master of the emergency stop & "stand up" comedian) wrote:You can't beat hard luggage!
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The Pan Euro comes with Full Honda Hard luggage Huge amount of space.
The RSVR has a top box option ( fitted only when needed) but much nicer than messing about with soft luggage when nipping over to the west coast . Or heading down to Edinburgh with it full of spares .
The RSVR has a top box option ( fitted only when needed) but much nicer than messing about with soft luggage when nipping over to the west coast . Or heading down to Edinburgh with it full of spares .
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Dave just posted lots of pictures of his wood!
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I have a lot of hard woodBig Kneed Al (master of the emergency stop & "stand up" comedian) wrote:Dave just posted lots of pictures of his wood!
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I have been lucky enough to get a Kreiga 20ltr tail pack from sunty this year. Its been on my wish list for a long time now. I have to say that out the box I am really impressed with it. My bike seat seemed to come with its own under slung looped canvas fixing points so securely adding and removing the tailback couldn't be easier.
The bag is 100% waterproof and looks like it will go the distance too! I had a dry run and managed to stash easily 4/5 days worth of living gear in there (hastily packed too) so your 20l goes a long long way! It also comes with carry straps you can choose to have or not.
Soft luggage inst for everyone but I do not tend to have a requirement for permanent stuff (and I am a touch to vein about aesthetics for my own good to like most permanent fixtures / mountings)
Kreiga seems well known to most bikers but asking about over the years I dont know anyone who has any of there stuff.
The kreiga 20 tail pack can be complimented by 2 further 10ltr on a bolt on / off capacity for extra storage with out having to bodge anything. Well made and clever use of space and mounting..
Gets my vote for anyone in a similar position to myself who doesn't need the permanent solution.
The bag is 100% waterproof and looks like it will go the distance too! I had a dry run and managed to stash easily 4/5 days worth of living gear in there (hastily packed too) so your 20l goes a long long way! It also comes with carry straps you can choose to have or not.
Soft luggage inst for everyone but I do not tend to have a requirement for permanent stuff (and I am a touch to vein about aesthetics for my own good to like most permanent fixtures / mountings)
Kreiga seems well known to most bikers but asking about over the years I dont know anyone who has any of there stuff.
The kreiga 20 tail pack can be complimented by 2 further 10ltr on a bolt on / off capacity for extra storage with out having to bodge anything. Well made and clever use of space and mounting..
Gets my vote for anyone in a similar position to myself who doesn't need the permanent solution.
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Currently on the watch out for Big Mans Wanger sports panniers ....they look a good half way house between permanent and soft luggage...pricey tho but then it's Big Mans Wanger
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haiax0 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 28, 2018 9:46 am I have been lucky enough to get a Kreiga 20ltr tail pack from sunty this year. Its been on my wish list for a long time now. I have to say that out the box I am really impressed with it. My bike seat seemed to come with its own under slung looped canvas fixing points so securely adding and removing the tailback couldn't be easier.
The bag is 100% waterproof and looks like it will go the distance too! I had a dry run and managed to stash easily 4/5 days worth of living gear in there (hastily packed too) so your 20l goes a long long way! It also comes with carry straps you can choose to have or not.
Soft luggage inst for everyone but I do not tend to have a requirement for permanent stuff (and I am a touch to vein about aesthetics for my own good to like most permanent fixtures / mountings)
Kreiga seems well known to most bikers but asking about over the years I dont know anyone who has any of there stuff.
The kreiga 20 tail pack can be complimented by 2 further 10ltr on a bolt on / off capacity for extra storage with out having to bodge anything. Well made and clever use of space and mounting..
Gets my vote for anyone in a similar position to myself who doesn't need the permanent solution.
I've got the US20, and 2 x US10's that i put on in their various configs depending on what i'm going to be picking up.
I also use the US20 with its shoulder strap very regularly for runs to the butcher etc etc.
I also have the various waist pack and small US5 with a tank attachment.
Excellent kit in my opinion and tranferable from bike to bike as well
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willian wrote: ↑Thu Jan 03, 2019 12:40 pmhaiax0 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 28, 2018 9:46 am I have been lucky enough to get a Kreiga 20ltr tail pack from sunty this year. Its been on my wish list for a long time now. I have to say that out the box I am really impressed with it. My bike seat seemed to come with its own under slung looped canvas fixing points so securely adding and removing the tailback couldn't be easier.
The bag is 100% waterproof and looks like it will go the distance too! I had a dry run and managed to stash easily 4/5 days worth of living gear in there (hastily packed too) so your 20l goes a long long way! It also comes with carry straps you can choose to have or not.
Soft luggage inst for everyone but I do not tend to have a requirement for permanent stuff (and I am a touch to vein about aesthetics for my own good to like most permanent fixtures / mountings)
Kreiga seems well known to most bikers but asking about over the years I dont know anyone who has any of there stuff.
The kreiga 20 tail pack can be complimented by 2 further 10ltr on a bolt on / off capacity for extra storage with out having to bodge anything. Well made and clever use of space and mounting..
Gets my vote for anyone in a similar position to myself who doesn't need the permanent solution.
I've got the US20, and 2 x US10's that i put on in their various configs depending on what i'm going to be picking up. Went away for a weekender with it, one of the US10 for washing kit, one for a pair of trainers and spare gloves.
Clean clothes and everything else in the US 20
The US10's i put colour coding on so i know which one is which.
I also use the US20 with its shoulder strap very regularly for runs to the butcher etc etc.
I also have the various waist pack and small US5 with a tank attachment.
Excellent kit in my opinion and tranferable from bike to bike as well
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willian wrote: ↑Thu Jan 03, 2019 12:40 pmhaiax0 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 28, 2018 9:46 am I have been lucky enough to get a Kreiga 20ltr tail pack from sunty this year. Its been on my wish list for a long time now. I have to say that out the box I am really impressed with it. My bike seat seemed to come with its own under slung looped canvas fixing points so securely adding and removing the tailback couldn't be easier.
The bag is 100% waterproof and looks like it will go the distance too! I had a dry run and managed to stash easily 4/5 days worth of living gear in there (hastily packed too) so your 20l goes a long long way! It also comes with carry straps you can choose to have or not.
Soft luggage inst for everyone but I do not tend to have a requirement for permanent stuff (and I am a touch to vein about aesthetics for my own good to like most permanent fixtures / mountings)
Kreiga seems well known to most bikers but asking about over the years I dont know anyone who has any of there stuff.
The kreiga 20 tail pack can be complimented by 2 further 10ltr on a bolt on / off capacity for extra storage with out having to bodge anything. Well made and clever use of space and mounting..
Gets my vote for anyone in a similar position to myself who doesn't need the permanent solution.
I've got the US20, and 2 x US10's that i put on in their various configs depending on what i'm going to be picking up. Went away for a weekender with it, one of the US10 for washing kit, one for a pair of trainers and spare gloves.
Clean clothes and everything else in the US 20
The US10's i put colour coding on so i know which one is which.
I also use the US20 with its shoulder strap very regularly for runs to the butcher etc etc.
I also have the various waist pack and small US5 with a tank attachment.
Excellent kit in my opinion and tranferable from bike to bike as well
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I was going to see how I got on with the us-20 and strapping on my tent and sleeping back. If I can get away with that the 20lts should be all I need. If not an extra 10 or two will just be the ticket.
My bike has quite a small rear tail / sub frame so I can quite quickly run out of space. But yes.. very very impressed with the kriega stuff.
My bike has quite a small rear tail / sub frame so I can quite quickly run out of space. But yes.. very very impressed with the kriega stuff.
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haiax0 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:38 am I was going to see how I got on with the us-20 and strapping on my tent and sleeping back. If I can get away with that the 20lts should be all I need. If not an extra 10 or two will just be the ticket.
My bike has quite a small rear tail / sub frame so I can quite quickly run out of space. But yes.. very very impressed with the kriega stuff.
Aye, there's flexibility in what you want to do, i have panniers for my bike as well so if i really wanted to load up a lot i've got helmet / gloves / bike / camping stove etc storage in the panniers and could have clothes etc in the US20/10/10 on top of that plus tent on the top of that.
ONly problem is getting the time off from family duties to make use of the luggage space
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Had a right good fettle with my camping gear and what I would deem to need for a weeks riding, camping, cooking and general living and I soon found the Kreiga 20 and two 10's was just not big enough for all my gear.
Shame as the 20ltr is an excellent bag for everything else I could want in day to day use (but I didn't want to buy funcy new luggage if I had to lash things back to the outside for camping trips). I have since exchanged for a 30ltr with the two 10's and I am sure its going to be just the ticket.
Fingers crossed! I remain still very impressed with the luggage and kreiga have been brilliant to deal with.
Shame as the 20ltr is an excellent bag for everything else I could want in day to day use (but I didn't want to buy funcy new luggage if I had to lash things back to the outside for camping trips). I have since exchanged for a 30ltr with the two 10's and I am sure its going to be just the ticket.
Fingers crossed! I remain still very impressed with the luggage and kreiga have been brilliant to deal with.
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Ventura rack with Mistral Bag. Tent, sleeping bag, toiletries, one set of casual clothes, trainers, spare gloves, oversuit and it still had the odd we gap here and there. Nice and need and when removed can be carried as a backpack
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Looks like allot of space from the rack bag combo indeed. Practicality win right there! Ashetically on the tard is might look a bit full on.. but then again so do I