electrics

Nutty · Post by **Nutty** » Fri May 20, 2005 12:44 pm

Its that 'testosterone' thing again

missile · Post by **missile** » Fri May 20, 2005 3:24 pm

............. and what is your excuse

scotty303 · Post by **scotty303** » Fri May 20, 2005 3:32 pm

1973 1st British Side-Car trials championship
(Jack Matthews)
1975 2nd British Moto-Cross championship
(Vic Eastwood)
1st 750 cc A.M.C.A. championship
(Mick Eatough)
1st A.M.C.A. superclass championship
(Cliff Barton)

1976 2nd, 4th, 5th British Moto-Cross championship
(Vic Allan, John Banks, Vic Eastwood)
5th Swiss 500cc Moto-Cross Grand Prix
(Vic Allan)
3rd Finnish 500cc Moto-Cross Grand Prix
(Vic Allan)
3rd Luxembourg 500cc Moto-Cross Grand Prix
(Vic Allan)
1st British Moto-Cross support championship
(Dave Nicol)
Eddie Kidds first ever jump over 13 double decker buses.
1977 2nd British 500cc Moto-Cross Grand Prix
(John Banks)
4th Canadian 500cc Moto-Cross Grand Prix
(John Banks)

1978 5th British Moto-Cross championship
(Bob Wright)
Small firms export award
1981 1st, 3rd 4th Isle of Man junior TT
(Steve Tonkin)
1st British 4-stroke championshop
(Austin Clews)
1983-
1985 1st British trials championship
(Steve Saunders)
1st, 4th, 5th 350cc British road race championship
(Niall Mackenzie)
1st, 2nd 250cc British road race championship
(Niall Mackenzie)
1st British trials championship
(Steve Saunders)
4,000 motorcycles produced at the Bolton factory badged as Can Ams and sold in North America
Queens award for export
1984-
1987 1st,2nd 250cc British road race championship
(Niall Mackenzie)
3rd 250cc British road race championship
(Donny Mcleod)
Over 3000 military motorcycles manufactured for the British, Canadian and Jordanian Army.
Harley Davidson buy the manufacturing design and rights to produce the MT 500 in the USA.
1990 1st British 4-stroke championship
(Greg Hansen)
1992 1st British 4-stroke championship
(Perry Leask)
1993 1st British 4-stroke championship
(Perry Leask)
1995 1st British World 4-stroke championship
(Donny Schmit)
1st Sound of thunder championship
(Donny Schmit)
1997 1st M.R. Thumpercross series
(Simon Wyse) formerly 'Haynes 4-stroke' series
1998 8th and 10th (in class) Paris-Granada-Dakar Rallye
(Nick Craigie + Vinny Fitsimmons)
Highest manufacture finish rate and best self supporting team awards (Paris-Granada-Dakar Rally)
Paris-Dakar CCM C27 successfully finish the toughest event in the motorsport world
Alan and Austin Clews sell their majority share in CCM to Peter Swift + Co
2002 CCM R30 wheelies down The Mall during the Queens Jubilee Parade
Mettet Chris Walker world superbike rider steps in as a late replacement for the injured Carl Fogarty
He's never ridden the factory prepared R30 before but finished a magnificent 6th overall against the worlds best supermoto riders.
2003 CCM hit the big screen Lara Croft stars in Tomb Raider aboard her CCM 644
Management shakeup at CCM
2004 July CCM closes it's doors amid mounting debts run up by previous management
Alan and Austin Clews and son in law Gary Harthern successfully buy back CCM and all its assets off liquidators BDO.

yelloisfriedegg · Post by **yelloisfriedegg** » Fri May 20, 2005 3:41 pm

scotty303 wrote:1973 1st British Side-Car trials championship
(Jack Matthews)
1975 2nd British Moto-Cross championship
(Vic Eastwood)
1st 750 cc A.M.C.A. championship
(Mick Eatough)
1st A.M.C.A. superclass championship
(Cliff Barton)

1976 2nd, 4th, 5th British Moto-Cross championship
(Vic Allan, John Banks, Vic Eastwood)
5th Swiss 500cc Moto-Cross Grand Prix
(Vic Allan)
3rd Finnish 500cc Moto-Cross Grand Prix
(Vic Allan)
3rd Luxembourg 500cc Moto-Cross Grand Prix
(Vic Allan)
1st British Moto-Cross support championship
(Dave Nicol)
Eddie Kidds first ever jump over 13 double decker buses.
1977 2nd British 500cc Moto-Cross Grand Prix
(John Banks)
4th Canadian 500cc Moto-Cross Grand Prix
(John Banks)

1978 5th British Moto-Cross championship
(Bob Wright)
Small firms export award
1981 1st, 3rd 4th Isle of Man junior TT
(Steve Tonkin)
1st British 4-stroke championshop
(Austin Clews)
1983-
1985 1st British trials championship
(Steve Saunders)
1st, 4th, 5th 350cc British road race championship
(Niall Mackenzie)
1st, 2nd 250cc British road race championship
(Niall Mackenzie)
1st British trials championship
(Steve Saunders)
4,000 motorcycles produced at the Bolton factory badged as Can Ams and sold in North America
Queens award for export
1984-
1987 1st,2nd 250cc British road race championship
(Niall Mackenzie)
3rd 250cc British road race championship
(Donny Mcleod)
Over 3000 military motorcycles manufactured for the British, Canadian and Jordanian Army.
Harley Davidson buy the manufacturing design and rights to produce the MT 500 in the USA.
1990 1st British 4-stroke championship
(Greg Hansen)
1992 1st British 4-stroke championship
(Perry Leask)
1993 1st British 4-stroke championship
(Perry Leask)
1995 1st British World 4-stroke championship
(Donny Schmit)
1st Sound of thunder championship
(Donny Schmit)
1997 1st M.R. Thumpercross series
(Simon Wyse) formerly 'Haynes 4-stroke' series
1998 8th and 10th (in class) Paris-Granada-Dakar Rallye
(Nick Craigie + Vinny Fitsimmons)
Highest manufacture finish rate and best self supporting team awards (Paris-Granada-Dakar Rally)
Paris-Dakar CCM C27 successfully finish the toughest event in the motorsport world.

Thats probably about the same no of victories Honda get in one season

scotty303 wrote:
2004 July CCM closes it's doors amid mounting debts run up by previous management

as I said , they went bust , they'll probably go bust again soon

GOKU · Post by **GOKU** » Fri May 20, 2005 3:55 pm

wheres my handbag!!

(looks around ) ah ha!!! (picks up pink handbag)

HANDBAGS UP!!!

scotty303 · Post by **scotty303** » Mon May 23, 2005 5:13 pm

ell cheers to gazza for having a look at my bike today . think we have found that the reg rectifier is cooked . any way got another reg rec from cables lane today the one on my bike is a 4 wire reg rec , 3 wires goes to the bike and 1 goes to the battery i have got another reg rec for the bike but need some help with it . i am at a loss hear with this bike . any help on how to check the new reg rec its not the same as the ccm 1 but it has 4 wires coming from it and i was hopping it would work with out forking out 120 notes for a new 1 i need to talk to someone with more knowlege than me about electrics any help

scotty303 · Post by **scotty303** » Mon May 23, 2005 9:37 pm

just took the reg rec of the bike its shagged alright wires was all crispy and burned . also the reg rec is sort of see thru on the back its a sealed unit but its kind of see thru well its shagged for sure . as i said i have another one with 4 wires like the 1 on the ccm but not sure how to check it to see where the out on it is

Post by **Zathos** » Mon May 23, 2005 11:44 pm

does the replacement unit have any markings on it.....
If we have a starting point we can search

Kawasaki krazy · Post by **Kawasaki krazy** » Tue May 24, 2005 12:46 am

Check out this page, is your rectifier like this one. A lot are very similar. It might give you some ideas.

http://www.powersportsnetwork.com/acces ... 127136.htm
Sorry about the stupid long link

This page gives some basic electrical checks and explains them pretty well. Rectifier is about half way down the page.
http://www.dansmc.com/electricaltesting.htm

Hope this helps

KK

scotty303 · Post by **scotty303** » Tue May 24, 2005 7:57 pm

no mate no markings on it what so ever . i did find some crispy wires today replaced then with new wire . i went down to see franky at jopps lane today and told him my story of the bike getting stolen and the wires getting pulled from the ignition . and told him that the battery leads was getting hot . he said that the reg rec would be fine that it sounds like a short or something . bothe back and front lights r still working when i have no keys in the ignition . but only when i put the front brake on or the back brake . i have came to a brick wall now i dont no what to look at next

Post by **Gazza** » Wed May 25, 2005 6:57 am

From what I saw on Monday, I still think it's the reg/rec. If it was a direct short, then battery would heat up all the time. It only does it when it's running, so it has to do with the output from the alternator.

See if you can get/borrow a reg/rec from breaking point as we discussed. Even if it's the wrong one, it should work long enough to confirm my story.

Did you call Electrex yet? Maybe if CCM could confirm the spec on your reg/rec, they could give you another to match.

http://www.electrexworld.co.uk/

Good luck.

Post by al » Wed May 25, 2005 8:39 am

scotty303 wrote:no mate no markings on it what so ever . i did find some crispy wires today replaced then with new wire . i went down to see franky at jopps lane today and told him my story of the bike getting stolen and the wires getting pulled from the ignition . and told him that the battery leads was getting hot . he said that the reg rec would be fine that it sounds like a short or something . bothe back and front lights r still working when i have no keys in the ignition . but only when i put the front brake on or the back brake . i have came to a brick wall now i dont no what to look at next

If the lights only come on when you apply the brake then I would suspect that it is a similar problem to the one I had last week with a dodgy rear tail/brake bulb, you know, the two fillament type.

A strange short had occured on one of the bulbs that was doing strange things with the lights including making the side light and rear tail light come on when you applied the brake.

If you have two rear bulbs then try them in one at a time and see if that makes a difference. If there is no change then see if you can get a new one out of halfords and see if that changes anything.

Big Kneed Al (master of the emergency stop & "stand up" comedian).

grantwils · Post by **grantwils** » Wed May 25, 2005 9:04 am

Scotty, I think you need to come at this from a different angle.

Sit down and think about what it coule be. Electrics are relatively simple things and follow a couple of rules.

In cases like this it is about trial and error but apply some method to your madness - otherwise you might screw even more on the bike.

If it wasn't doing this before it was nicked I'd concentrate on what was done then i.e. ignition circuit screwed. Once you have that all rewired absolutely correctly you can then try other things.

I'd agree with Gazza, if it only does it when the engine is running it's likely to be the reg/rect.

Are you sure that the little poo's didn't do anything like put the wrong fuse in somewhere?

The problems with lights etc might not be linked, it could just be a blown bulb/fuse.

Take it one step at a time and try and rule things out one at a time so you can narrow it down. Keep in mind though that there could be more than one problem.

I'd also pay more attention to your posts if you used the occasional capital letter and full stop - much easier to read. Paragraphs can also come in useful!

Rgds
Grant

scotty303 · Post by **scotty303** » Wed May 25, 2005 9:23 am

i am told by ccm that a cb250 wet dream reg rec will do the job . going to try 1 today . and as for spelling and full stops i am sure u understand what i put down . i am not the best speller so u guys have to just bare with me . and for the guys who took my bike they just pulled the ignition wires thats all for what i can see . and if the reg rec of the wet dream dont work then the bike will have to just sit in the shed . nothing i can do about it right now . i dont no enough about electrics on bikes to sort it out

cheers for everyones help any way

Post by **Gazza** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 1:54 pm

So how did you get on then Scott? Any luck? Back on the road yet?

scotty303 · Post by **scotty303** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 10:20 pm

no gazza not yet mate Big Kneed Al (master of the emergency stop & "stand up" comedian) is coming to have another look this sunday . hears hoping we find something . i also have a guy i met with the same bike same year the lot coming on sunday also . so hears hoping i get it sorted . i have found a ccm on ebay the guy is selling the bike for spares hope i get it back on the road soon mate as its doing my head right in not having the bike running

scotty303 · Post by **scotty303** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 9:58 pm

sorted sorted thanks to Big Kneed Al (master of the emergency stop & "stand up" comedian) and gazza cheers guys i would still be in the dark if it was ot for u guys meny thanks