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Re: Urgent - Serious Brake Failure
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 2:41 pm
by IZINBARD
grantwils wrote:I had the bike serviced and MOT'd on Wednesday and everything was OK. Had the front brake pads renewed and thought something was strange with them.
I hope it is the same dealer, that it is free of charge and the braided lines and new fluid are compensation for risking your life on a bike that was not safe and should not have passed the MOT.
Re: Urgent - Serious Brake Failure
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 2:47 pm
by grantwils
IZINBARD wrote:grantwils wrote:I had the bike serviced and MOT'd on Wednesday and everything was OK. Had the front brake pads renewed and thought something was strange with them.
I hope it is the same dealer, that it is free of charge and the braided lines and new fluid are compensation for risking your life on a bike that was not safe and should not have passed the MOT.
I didn't take it back to the place that did the original work. They are a small 2 man team I had been told would do a reasonable job at a reasonable rate. It's now at a kwak main dealer for the work as I don't really know anywhere else down Glasgow/Renfreshire way to do it.
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 3:02 pm
by IZINBARD
Well take the Kwak bill round to the dude that did the first servive and MOT and demand a refund. Report them to the trading standards etc. If not satisfied with their response. Your bike should never have passed the MOT.
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 3:46 pm
by Joe
Got to agree with Izzy on this one.
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 3:57 pm
by grantwils
I'm strangely not too bothered - just really really glad I didn't get injured.
I just won't use them again.
It seemed to be working fine at the MOT. I sat and watched and even helped him twist the handle on the brake test machine. Wasn't the most hi-tech place in the world but the front brake did go up to the level indicated as acceptable on the scale thing.
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 5:15 pm
by Graybeard
grantwils wrote:just really really glad I didn't get injured.
Next dude might not be so lucky

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:28 pm
by IZINBARD
grantwils wrote: front brake did go up to the level indicated as acceptable on the scale thing.
Just goes to show that an MOT is not worth a f*ck 10 minutes after the test.

which we all know anyway but it does help to highlight the point.
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 8:37 am
by Backs 400
IZINBARD wrote:grantwils wrote: Just goes to show that an MOT is not worth a f*ck 10 minutes after the test.

which we all know anyway but it does help to highlight the point.
And the latest government proposal is to extend the MOT to every 2 years! The test remains the same as now, even though the EU has made it easier to pass, and the reason why they are extending it is due to the huge backlog of vehicles, especially commercial vehicles, that need an MOT. Because the tester can only have one vehicle at a time logged onto the computer system they are struggling to get on top of the backlog.
They are now no longer to dissasemble any of the vehicle to look for faults, so, for example, if you car has drum brakes on the rear, they cannot take off the drum to check the condition of the pads or cylinder. If your car scrapes through the brake test because the rear drums are goosed, they can only give an advisory rather than a fail for faulty brakes.
Same gose if you coat your brake pipes or chassis in waxoyl. They cannot scrape it off to check the condition, or hit it with a hammer as they used too, just an advisory. Mental!
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 3:23 pm
by TheSaint
Just a thought, 'cos it has been known to happen before (not to me I hasten to add):
Make sure the spotty oik who fitted the new pads put them in the right way round.
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 6:53 pm
by IZINBARD
Ha ha ha, my first thought was not possible, but then with a bit of real stoopidity and perseverance you could get then totally bas ackwards with the piston on the friction material and the steel backing plates on the discs

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 8:10 pm
by dale123
Almost sounded like you had the front wheel on the wrong way round and the spacers were on the wrong side. Seen that happen, and you get the same effect you did.
I cant speak for all road tyres and pads, but brake pads can be bedded in with 2 laps half pace, 4th lap full pace, 5 mins cool down. So 5 miles to get the brake material onto the disk and a heat cycle through the pad, helps if you clean the disk first, particularly if your changing pad type. Tyres within 1.23miles to be precise (after warmers).

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:42 am
by TheSaint
IZINBARD wrote:Ha ha ha, my first thought was not possible, but then with a bit of real stoopidity and perseverance you could get then totally bas ackwards with the piston on the friction material and the steel backing plates on the discs

It's not that difficult. Believe me.