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Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2004 5:29 pm
by Uponblocks
Big Kneed Al (master of the emergency stop & "stand up" comedian) (Super Nanny) wrote:Why don't you get a drum brake conversion done on the bike??? No more horrible rust to look at! :2up
And

get a couple of soccer cards and clothespegs off your mum and clip the cards to the spokes...... ;)

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2004 9:28 am
by Backs 400
That don't work too well on a ZXR, only 3 spokes..but the new millie could be fun! :I can't believe it's not butter!

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 12:22 pm
by Jinx
Right well i've decided to get new brake discs coz my ones are goosed so was wondering if I could get your advice on discs!!

I've been quoted £110 each for Hyperlite Stealths, has anyone used these before and are they any good??

Cheapest quote i've had for EBC Pro-Lites is £135 each but i've been told to stay clear from them coz apparently they are coated with zinc which knackers the pads and then the discs warp?! Anyone had this problem?

Cheers,
Joan

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 12:46 pm
by al
zxrbabe wrote:Right well i've decided to get new brake discs coz my ones are goosed so was wondering if I could get your advice on discs!!

I've been quoted £110 each for Hyperlite Stealths, has anyone used these before and are they any good??

Cheapest quote i've had for EBC Pro-Lites is £135 each but i've been told to stay clear from them coz apparently they are coated with zinc which knackers the pads and then the discs warp?! Anyone had this problem?

Cheers,
Joan
Who ever said that about the Prolotes has their head up their arse! I thouroughly recommend them.

The prolites have a zinc coating on them to stop them corroding in storage. It quickly wears off but you will have reduced braking farce till it does. What you can do is fit one side and wait for the pads to bed in and the coating to wear off and then do the other side.

Remeber you should be fitting new brake pads at the same time so that'll be some more £'s. If you go for the prolites then get the EBC HH pads.

Big Kneed Al (master of the emergency stop & "stand up" comedian).

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 12:51 pm
by yelloisfriedegg
This may be a silly question but how much are genuine Kawaski discs ?

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 12:56 pm
by Jinx
Genuine Kawasaki discs cost £191 each so thats a bit outta my price range!!

A few people have said ebc are good then i get told their crap then good again... aarghhh what do i do! :???

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 1:22 pm
by al
zxrbabe wrote:A few people have said ebc are good then i get told their crap then good again... aarghhh what do i do! :???
Stay off VisorDown and listen to those who have actually used them!!!

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 1:23 pm
by yelloisfriedegg
But once you ask Bert for your Aberdeenbikers 10% discount thats them down to £172 each , only £37 a side dearer than EBC for peace of mind and discs you know are going to be right ;)

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 1:25 pm
by al
yelloisfriedegg wrote:But once you ask Bert for your Aberdeenbikers 10% discount thats them down to £172 each , only £37 a side dearer than EBC for peace of mind and discs you know are going to be right ;)
Discount on yer pads & ebc disks as well if you're a member ;)

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 1:27 pm
by yelloisfriedegg
If Big Kneed Al (master of the emergency stop & "stand up" comedian) says they are ok I'm sure he is right , I have never used them so could not tell you , I have however used EBC pads and found them not as good as OE pads , they tended to glaze up and faded with heavy use , this was on a ZXR750 with OE discs , maybe EBC pads and discs together would be better.


I know you posted this on VD the other day and you got mixed answers on there too , who originally told you EBC were no good , have they actually used them ? :roll

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 1:31 pm
by Jinx
That was a price from McGowans by the way for Kawa Discs!!

My mate who's mate owns a bike garage in Aberdeen told me and said that his mate has used them several times and that is what happened to him.

:??? :??? :??? :??? :???

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 1:35 pm
by al
zxrbabe wrote:That was a price from McGowans by the way for Kawa Discs!!

My mate who's mate owns a bike garage in Aberdeen told me and said that his mate has used them several times and that is what happened to him.

:??? :??? :??? :??? :???
Pilot error I guess.

Myself, Inzibard & Flash have all used them and have found no problems with them. ( Although Flash did moan cause his came with different coloured disk carriers :roll )

Big Kneed Al (master of the emergency stop & "stand up" comedian).

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 5:03 pm
by missile
This topic has been discussed at length before on this and other sites. Opinions seem, devided. Pay your money and make your choice I guess
:oops

I used EBC because they were a bit cheaper (than *onda). Was very disappointed. I found the discs corroded very badly, so much so that the pads siezed onto the discs.

I seem to recall someone (Flash?) has a problem with Carbon Lorraine pad coming off the backing plate. IMHO it is best to stick to OME where the quality is (maybe?) better controlled. :nono Other than perhaps for race where the better friction properties of iron vs stainless gives better performance. On a 400 I guess this is not a major concern :P

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 5:32 pm
by Gazza
zxrbabe wrote:That was a price from McGowans by the way for Kawa Discs!!

My mate who's mate owns a bike garage in Aberdeen told me and said that his mate has used them several times and that is what happened to him.

:??? :??? :??? :??? :???
Well my mate's mate who has a mate who lives near some bloke who's mate used to know somebody who's mate owned a garage, says that this bloke has never tried them. But he might have a mate who has.

So he probably can't help you much, well not unless he can get hold of his mate anyway.

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 7:26 pm
by Zax
I have just had a set of carbon loraine pads fitted to my YZFR6 and they are taking a while to bed in but they feel very good .

The only thing i find that is different from the OME is the sshhhhh noise that they make when you pull on the brakes.

Will let you know how i get on with them after a few more miles .

me too

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 3:46 pm
by GOKU
i get that annoying shhhhh noise aswell on my bike i took my pads off gave them a little rub with wire wool to corse them up a little and the noise went away....for about a 2 days I can't believe it's not butter!

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 4:07 pm
by al
That noise is caused by friction.

Brakes + friction = :cool

Brakes - friction = :angel

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 8:43 am
by Backs 400
I stopped the SHHHHH noise by coating the friction face with the fat and crap you get on the bottom of a grill pan. Now when I brake I get a nice smell of sausages and bacon :)

GOKU..if you have sintered pads I would be very worried if they did not go SHHHHHH ;)

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 7:58 pm
by Zax
;) I did kinda guess that it was the different material making the brakes go Shhhhhh..... :roll

I'll give them a good try out when i get back next week ....