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engine rebuild advice
Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 8:45 pm
by shortassrider
Hi all i am reconditioning(hopefully)

the engine for an fzr 600. As i need to separate all 3 sections do i have to break the timing chain .i need to replace the bearing on the transmition shaft. As the section i need to work on is at the bottom and according to the haynes manual i need to separate all three section, but unfortunately it is unclear as to whether i need to break the timing chain. Anyone help much thanks , shortass .

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 9:24 pm
by Zax
Generally once you remove the cams you should be able to remove the timing chain with out breaking it .
Breaking it would be Bad
It may help if you remove / slacken off the plastic guide as this will create the space necessary to remove the chain.
Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 8:23 am
by Backs 400
I would be seriously thinking of replacing the timing chain if there is any sort of milage associated with the engine....and you should find that it comes pre assembled..you just slip it over the cams as you rebuild the engine back up.
Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 8:52 am
by Zathos
Don't break the chain.
Once you remove the cam shafts it will come out easily enough.
However don't take the chain out of the block if you don't need to cos it's a bugger to refit. Use a couple of wire coat hangers to hold the chain in the block

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 12:13 pm
by _murd
If you are not sure about whether you should break the cam chain or not, you should maybe ask yourself if you are up to rebuilding the engine??? :I can't believe it's not butter!
Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 12:58 pm
by Gazza
_murd wrote:If you are not sure about whether you should break the cam chain or not, you should maybe ask yourself if you are up to rebuilding the engine??? :I can't believe it's not butter!
That was my thought too, but I suppose you have to start somewhere. I stripped my first engine using a Haynes manual.
Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 2:37 pm
by TheSaint
[quote="GazzaThat was my thought too, but I suppose you have to start somewhere. I stripped my first engine using a Haynes manual.[/quote]
Yeah, but who put it back together for you?

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 2:47 pm
by Zathos
TheSaint wrote:Yeah, but who put it back together for you?

"Installation is the reverse of removal"

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 3:11 pm
by Backs 400
Got to say that the rebuild Haynes manual for a Rover V8 left out some very important bits..such as having to pack the oil pump gears with vasaline to get "suction". and oil pressure. It is a major problem if you don't, and Haynes never mentioned it once.
The proper manufacturers manual was far superior with better and more diagrams.
Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 6:52 pm
by shortassrider
Thanks guys , and thanks for the $~#*&^" smarmy comments

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the bike was bought as a project to help me find my way around bikes as im new and don't know much about them (ask yellois).
Its proving to be a much bigger job than anticipated but im determined to have it on the road for next summer. i have a haynes manual and it is a massive help . thanks for the info guys , wish me luck I can't believe it's not butter!.

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:20 am
by Backs 400
Good luck!!
Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:33 am
by yelloisfriedegg
shortassrider wrote:(ask yellois)
............ask me what ??
if it's ask me what the probablility of this poor bike to ever turn a wheel under it's own power again I would say zero
...but hey , good luck anyway :I can't believe it's not butter!
Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:12 pm
by Zathos
Oh yee of little faith
Don't listen to em mate. Best way to learn is hands on

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 3:03 pm
by missile
shortassrider wrote: and thanks for the $~#*&^" smarmy comments

.up
I was just thinking any pal of yellow will be used to that when ............ I read his post :I can't believe it's not butter!
Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 3:26 pm
by yelloisfriedegg
Missile wrote:shortassrider wrote: and thanks for the $~#*&^" smarmy comments

.up
I was just thinking any pal of yellow will be used to that when ............ I read his post :I can't believe it's not butter!
I don't think he would class me as a "pal" I think his reference to me was because I took the piss a bit on a previous post with regards to his mechanical knowledge............or lack of

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 3:28 pm
by shortassrider
Cheers guys , got it stripped down without any problem , found both bearings and shaft buggered . oH the joys

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 4:18 pm
by TheSaint
I stripped my first engine using a Haynes manual.
I used a socket set. The bolts came out MUCH easier.
