BRAKES

[stitch82]

How about a brakes section?
Any way changed my lines to HEL braided lines and seems to be better than the standard rubber lines

Whats everyones thoughts on pads as I need to change the rear and front pads- What make? What type(sinthered or other). Will be for my ZZR 600 every where i`ve looked seems the same! Thoughts any one

[missile]

IMHO, you are unlikely to brake hard enough to find any benefit from braided lines on the road,
but they do look good

Service your brakes once a year.
Clean all component parts.
Check pistons are free and use high temp lube (I can't believe it's not butter!).
Fluid degrades change it for fresh.
Change your pads long before they reach the minimum recommended thickness.
Use OEM or a.n.other well known manufacturer.

It is not rocket science, but if you do not know what you are doing, leave it to someone who does.

[Akrapovic]

I have sintered, dual carbon pads and HEL braided lines on the track-b1ke. You will only find the real use of them there. However the HEL lines do look good and add some bling. I have a contact for a good price if your interested.

For me and as Missile says, stick with standard pads until you find that they are not doing their job.

Thats when you need to buy a track-b1ke.

[al]

Do not under estimate the significance of cleaning the calipers & making sure the pistons are free. I've seen folk spend a fortune on braided hoses, fancy brake fluid, and HH pads only for their pistons to be seized.

A good clean with some aerosol brake cleaner then, one at a time, clean the sides of the pistons with fresh brake fluid using q-tips/cotton buds. Carefully, making sure the pistons you are not working on don't move, pump out the pistons slightly to get it properly clean before pushing it back in. You should be able to push it back with your fingers. If not you may want to get the calipers serviced properly.

Do keep an eye on the master cylinder when you do push the pistons in just incase some of the brake fluid overflows.

Big Kneed Al (master of the emergency stop & "stand up" comedian).

[steve]

Braided lines WILL make the brakes on your bike much better

[al]

Braided lines WILL make the brakes on your bike much better

Providing the calipers work.

[Ratz]

Braided lines WILL make the brakes on your bike much better

Providing the calipers work.

and you put the pads in the right way round!!!!!

[steve]

Very true Big Kneed Al (master of the emergency stop & "stand up" comedian) an Ratz , I always fit EBC HH pads an I think they work great on my bike

[missile]

Braided lines WILL make the brakes on your bike much better

In YOUR mind.

[steve]

Braided lines WILL make the brakes on your bike much better

In YOUR mind.

You obviously know better as usual , please inform us how rubber lines are better than steel braided lines

[missile]

Braided lines WILL make the brakes on your bike much better

In YOUR mind.

You obviously know better as usual , please inform us how rubber lines are better than steel braided lines

I said

IMHO, you are unlikely to brake hard enough to find any benefit from braided lines on the road,
but they do look good

On this occasion YOU claim to know better.

[steve]

Well on my bikes I noticed a massive difference and improvement after I fitted braided lines , the brakes feel much more positive and the spongy feeling that rubber lines give is gone , that's surely got to be a good thing for any bike , I personally wouldn't feel as confident with my brakes if I had rubber brake lines , if you don't agree with me that's your choice

[missile]

I am sorry that I appear to have caused you offence.

Enjoy your ride

[granderson70]

The main benefit I get from braided lines is much better feel. Like others said we shouldn't need to use our brakes to find out if they give overall better stopping power. HEL/Goodridge, etc. all the same but I always BUY BRITISH!

I've changed over to braided on half a dozen bikes and it's always an improvement, sometimes small sometimes huge. It's one of the cheapest, best & easiest upgrades you can do. First time I did it was on the rear brake of a Truimph sprint. The brake went from nothing/locked wheel to something I could really use and it changed my town riding on that bike significantly.

I always go for HH sintered pads from EBC and always been happy. And like Big Kneed Al (master of the emergency stop & "stand up" comedian) says do learn to clean your calipers, this should be easy enough if you have ones that split in half to get to pistons on both sides. Monbloc (like yammy blue/gold spots) are a pain to get the pistons out of. I find a brass 'chimney sweep' type brush attachment on a dremel was excellent for cleaning out the crud in the seals' grooves.

The one thing I am slow to change is the discs and that is purely a cost thing. I don't have much aftermarket experience to rate one make or another but I would tend to buy a known brand (EBC?)- never cheap out on brakes or tyres! That reminds me I am overdue to get some just now for the Daytona ....

[stitch82]

Much appreciated folks for your thoughts, got front and rear pads ebc and cleaning calipers when change pads.disks seem ok Thanks again folks