Tasty Nuts!

grantwils · Post by **grantwils** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 8:04 pm

Anyone used the pro-bolt anodised nut kits? I fancy changing the nuts and screws etc on my GPZ to make it look a bit funkier - also because the previous owner has damaged most of the fasteners which have knackered heads & threads etc.

Are they any good? Are they overpriced on tastynuts website and can you get the for less anywhere else?

meepmeep · Post by **meepmeep** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:17 pm

cooler and looks way more professional if ye replace everything with allen/socket cap head stainless bolts. ebay have alot. get a big tub of assorted sizes. usually enough to go round. in my opinion(which is always right by the way) the coloured ones look cheap and not tasty

Boysie · Post by **Boysie** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 8:35 am

But there sooo expensive

missile · Post by **missile** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 9:43 am

Pro-Bolt items are expensive, but they do make up kits especially for your bike. I guess it is down to tatse, whether you like them. You can get a tub of allen bolts, nuts and washers from MPS, but they are much cheaper @ Screwfixit. Halfords sell them too.

Quick release fasteners may be an option for your fairing.

yelloisfriedegg · Post by **yelloisfriedegg** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 10:01 am

Be very careful if you are using stainless steel , it may look pretty but most grades are not very strong , always ask for high tensile bolts

grantwils · Post by **grantwils** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 8:02 pm

So if I want to replace my fasteners the best bet seems to be high tensile stainless steel or the pro bolt jobbies which are a bit more expensive but may be an aquired taste.

meepmeep · Post by **meepmeep** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 10:48 pm

something like this will do you, tidy fairing replacements, prob will fit your brake calipers and discs too. exhaust hanger, engine casing etc
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/STAINLESS-SOCKET- ... dZViewItem

yelloisfriedegg · Post by **yelloisfriedegg** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 8:22 am

meepmeep wrote:something like this will do you, tidy fairing replacements, prob will fit your brake calipers and discs too. exhaust hanger, engine casing etc
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/STAINLESS-SOCKET- ... dZViewItem

no grade of steel given in that sale , probably standard 18-8 SS , low tensile strength compared to CS , they would be ok for fairings / engine casings but I would not use them on anything like footrest hangers or lever mounts , and certainly not for brake calipers or discs

Backs 400 · Post by **Backs 400** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 10:48 am

I decked my old ZXR out in purple Pro Bolt stuff..never again. Even though everything was copperslipped the hex heads soon rounded off..because as Yellow says, the stuff is not the best grade metal.

Any engine studs that needed to be Locthreaded into place promptly snapped when trying to remove them.

I would strongly recomment leaving the Pro Bolt anodised stuff to the show bikes and use high quality stainless steel or Dzus fastners for the fairings (very smart indeed)

Oh..and my ZXR ended up looking like a tarts handbag thanks to the purple fastners everywhere..I can't believe it's not butter!.

oh..and one VERY important thing..if replacing brake components ONLY use stainless steel..anodised are not road legal and can rot from the inside and snap.

grantwils · Post by **grantwils** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 9:42 pm

Glad I asked now! High tensile stainless looks like the way to go!

Nutty · Post by **Nutty** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 10:13 pm

Backs 400 wrote:Dzus fastners for the fairings

Ahhhhh been racking my brains all day for the name of those fasteners.....thanks Backs

meepmeep · Post by **meepmeep** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 10:30 pm

yelloisfriedegg wrote:
no grade of steel given in that sale , probably standard 18-8 SS , low tensile strength compared to CS , they would be ok for fairings / engine casings but I would not use them on anything like footrest hangers or lever mounts , and certainly not for brake calipers or discs

last 2 bikes have had all bolts replaced with ebay bolts, never had any problems

maybe just lucky :I can't believe it's not butter!

yelloisfriedegg · Post by **yelloisfriedegg** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 8:02 am

The chances of a "Mr Fastener" or similar low grade ss bolt shearing are pretty slim , the consequences however , depending on what you don't have fastened to whatever anymore could be dire

Better to be safe than ...........etc , etc

roadie scot · Post by **roadie scot** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 10:38 am

you can get a damn good selection of bolts from Grampian Fasteners.

decked out my Fazer with SS from there quite cheaply

ovad666 · Post by **ovad666** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 11:29 am

There are a lot of decent fastner companies in and around Aberdeen, I use a lot of them at work.

ATR fastners
Bon Accord Metals
Steadfast Scotland

to name but a few, shop around and u can get a good deal.

CBRXX · Post by **CBRXX** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 3:35 pm

ovad666 wrote:There are a lot of decent fastner companies in and around Aberdeen, I use a lot of them at work.

ATR fastners
Bon Accord Metals
Steadfast Scotland

to name but a few, shop around and u can get a good deal.

Would have to agree with that we're in the right part of the country up here for fasteners and small engineering works to get anything done to the bike.

Backs 400 · Post by **Backs 400** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 12:59 pm

Nutty wrote:
Backs 400 wrote:Dzus fastners for the fairings
Ahhhhh been racking my brains all day for the name of those fasteners.....thanks Backs

Pleasure..I can't believe it's not butter!..

Graeme · Post by **Graeme** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:04 am

Backs 400 wrote:..if replacing brake components ONLY use stainless steel..anodised are not road legal and can rot from the inside and snap.

I made the annodised fasteners fashion-disaster with my CBR...they're cheap, tacky and low-quality components. Luckily the front brake line fell off when I was cleaning it and not riding it

grantwils · Post by **grantwils** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 6:50 pm

I'm about to order the Stainless Steel A4 (316) grade engine bolt kit from pro-bolt. Had a look at my screwfix catalogue but there's not a great selection to choose from and they all seem to be packs of 100!

I was going to order the pro-bolt alloy stuff - in black, not tacky colours - for replacing the rusty fairing and screen bolts - that should be OK shouldn't it?

I've been looking at the bolts on my bike and have noticed that some of them have a '4' on them and some of them have a '7' - it doesn't seem to have anything to do with the size so my guess is that this refers to the tensile strength - am I correct?

speedaddictedberk · Post by **speedaddictedberk** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:38 pm

grantwils wrote: I was going to order the pro-bolt alloy stuff - in black, not tacky colours - for replacing the rusty fairing and screen bolts - that should be OK shouldn't it?

I'd avoid the alloy stuff altogether, its a real pain when the bolt heads round off and you have to grind slots in them to use a screwdriver. Or the bolts seize into the frame then snap.
I'd only use stainless steel, even for the fairing.

grantwils · Post by **grantwils** » Tue Apr 10, 2007 4:36 pm

Thanks for the advice - I'll maybe just avoid it then.

Still... does anyone know what the 4 and 7 mean?

fido · Post by **fido** » Tue Apr 10, 2007 7:40 pm

Yes, it does signify the tensile strength, 4 would be mild steel for cam covers etc, things like cylinder head bolts would be high tensile and have a higher number.

grantwils · Post by **grantwils** » Tue Apr 10, 2007 9:23 pm

Cheers for clearing that up!!!

I spoke to my paw tonight and he recommended these guys http://www.namrick.co.uk/ who seem a lot more reasonable than anywhere else I've seen. Apparently the bulk packs are very good for spares and stuff...

Even buying individually bolts are only a few pence compared to over a quid from pro bolt.

E.G..

Hex Head Set Screw :
All items are Bright Zinc Plated to BS 3382 (Metric Threaded Bolts and Nuts are High Tensile Grade 8.8). ALL PRICED EACH. Hex Head Set Screw
Length M5 M6 M8 M10 M12
16mm Â£0.07 Â£0.08 Â£0.12
20mm Â£0.08 Â£0.09 Â£0.13 Â£0.24 Â£0.36
25mm Â£0.10 Â£0.10 Â£0.13 Â£0.26 Â£0.37
30mm Â£0.10 Â£0.11 Â£0.15 Â£0.27 Â£0.39
35mm Â£0.16 Â£0.13 Â£0.18 Â£0.30 Â£0.41
40mm Â£0.16 Â£0.15 Â£0.20 Â£0.32 Â£0.44
45mm Â£0.17 Â£0.19 Â£0.23 Â£0.35 Â£0.48
50mm Â£0.20 Â£0.19 Â£0.25 Â£0.37 Â£0.53
60mm Â£0.25 Â£0.35 Â£0.47 Â£0.69
70mm Â£0.51 Â£0.67 Â£0.93
80mm Â£0.97

Not sure what high tenssile grade 8.8 is but they also have grade A2 and A4 at reasonable prices - they go down to M4 size in Grade a2 socket screws for less than 10p each!

Backs 400 · Post by **Backs 400** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 9:15 am

Thanks for the link.

I have been looking for bolts etc for my landrovers. Being "British" they have Imperial, Metric and the other one (cant remember what it is). I cant just walk into a shop and buy, but that place seems to have everything I could want! :)

missile · Post by **missile** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 9:30 am

Try to find cadmium plated. They look better and last longer than galvanize