electrics

scotty303 · Post by **scotty303** » Wed May 18, 2005 7:43 pm

right guys it seems that when i hit the start button on my ccm the battery leadswill start to get hot very quick and smoke from the battery leads why
is this . i got the bike stolen 2 weeks ago and the f*cker pulled all 6 ignition wires i have
managed to match 2 of the six wiredand am left with 4 wires i am not sure what to do with the bike is starting but the
battery leads r going hot . is this coz i dont have the rest of the
ignition wires wired up its very strange that the leads get hot .
before i got the bike stolen and the ignition wires pulled of the bike was fine . the
bike is just not right electric ways any help . if any of u guys can

Post by **Gazza** » Wed May 18, 2005 8:23 pm

Sounds like you've got it wired up wrongly and you're coonecting the live straight to earth when you press the starter button. Almost certainly if it's getting hot and smoking it's a direct earth.

scotty303 · Post by **scotty303** » Thu May 19, 2005 11:05 am

cheers for the reply my friend . as i said the bike got stolen and i got it back with the wires from the ignition pulled of so there is six wired and i have only connected 2 of them . if it was a earth prob would i still get the lights working . the lights r working and the bike is starting but when i hit the start button the bike battery leads heat up . i asm getting a new battery at the weekend . something is not right everything was fine before it got stolen its got to be something to do with the wired i have conected but i dont no how to wire them back up i have the wiring diagram from ccm but not sure about it as it does not state where the wires go . i cant aford to put the bike into a shop to get it fixed .is there any of u guys no more about bike electrics than me . if so can u come and have a look at my bike with a multi meter and sort it out for me . i will bye u a pint . no realy i need some help hear i think .....

cheers for the reply mate

yelloisfriedegg · Post by **yelloisfriedegg** » Thu May 19, 2005 11:12 am

Why not just set fire to it and claim on the insurance , after all , you can blame the faulty ingition switch now :I can't believe it's not butter!

..........then you could buy a real motorbike with the money

scotty303 · Post by **scotty303** » Thu May 19, 2005 11:29 am

i have had meny bikes in my 17 years of riding on the road my friend . had every sports bike u could think of over the years . i am not hear to listen to small talk mate . i just want some help with my bike thats all . and as for a real bike i got one . nothing wronge with the ccm everyone to there own . and i never bought the bike to burn it . any way its not what u got its how u ride it . and the ccm will nail anything on the backroads thats for sure .... anytime u fancy going out for a blast on the b roads give me a shout . then we will see who has a real bike nothing has passed me yet on it onthe b roads

yelloisfriedegg · Post by **yelloisfriedegg** » Thu May 19, 2005 11:33 am

scotty303 wrote:i have had meny bikes in my 17 years of riding on the road my friend . had every sports bike u could think of over the years . i am not hear to listen to small talk mate . i just want some help with my bike thats all . and as for a real bike i got one . nothing wronge with the ccm everyone to there own . and i never bought the bike to burn it . any way its not what u got its how u ride it . and the ccm will nail anything on the backroads thats for sure .... anytime u fancy going out for a blast on the b roads give me a shout . then we will see who has a real bike nothing has passed me yet on it onthe b roads

what a coincedence , my post was a wind up too :I can't believe it's not butter!

.....'cos that cannot be real.......can it ?

yelloisfriedegg · Post by **yelloisfriedegg** » Thu May 19, 2005 11:47 am

scotty303 wrote:.... anytime u fancy going out for a blast on the b roads give me a shout . then we will see who has a real bike

...this is presuming you can ever get it to start again

My advice is still torch it :I can't believe it's not butter!

scotty303 · Post by **scotty303** » Thu May 19, 2005 11:51 am

sorry mate just a bit wound up with the bike thats all nothing ment ok . i have been out all morning in the garage the bike is starting but the battery leads heat up i have wired the ignition up wronge i have the lights working but still not sure about things as i ave 4 wires hanging from the ignition i cant find where to put them . any help would be good

yelloisfriedegg · Post by **yelloisfriedegg** » Thu May 19, 2005 12:00 pm

Go to the shop where you bought the bike , take a pencil and a bit of paper.

Look at the same model of bike , specifically at the ignition housing.

Write / sketch down the sequence of wires , what colour goes to what pin , if you can't see exactly how it's wired , speak to the shop and explain what has happened , I'm sure they will help you out.

Go home , wire your ignition in the same order as the bike in the shop.

Sorted.

......if it still smokes or will not start , torch it , claim etc ,etc ......

Post by al » Thu May 19, 2005 1:03 pm

Scott,

Why don't you have a word with the chaps in Shirlaws as they were the local CCM dealers. I would hope that they have some sort of workshop manual for your bike so they may be able to give you the details you need.

Big Kneed Al (master of the emergency stop & "stand up" comedian).

missile · Post by **missile** » Thu May 19, 2005 1:39 pm

I already suggested that, see>>

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Maybe you could find a similar bike at the dealers and have a look to see which coloured wire goes where.

yelloisfriedegg · Post by **yelloisfriedegg** » Thu May 19, 2005 2:14 pm

I just thought , is CCM the company that Foggy's Mrs was a director of that went tits up ?

If so , I'm back to the torching / claim on insurance deal , then you can bike a bike made by a comany that still exists

.................you don't have a Rover car do you ?

Post by **Gazza** » Thu May 19, 2005 3:54 pm

Scotty, seems to me that you got some of it wired right and some mixed up (particularly the starter switch). Don't keep trying it as you'll knacker another battery.

I'm away just now but back after the weekend. If you don't sort it by then, I'll have a look, but no promises. I'm not a sparkie, but I've got a multimeter and a bit of experience. PM me and let me know.

Have you'd tried searching the net for a wiring diagram?

scotty303 · Post by **scotty303** » Thu May 19, 2005 4:15 pm

I just thought , is CCM the company that Foggy's Mrs was a director of that went tits up ?

why do ppl say things they no nothing about

by the way ccm r still up and running . i called them today . that was them on the phone just now sorted the guy from ccm gave me all the colours and numbers to where to put the wires back into the ignition . so all sorted just away to go and hook them up . any way lets see if u can call honda of who ever makes your bike direct and get a call back from them the same day ... i think not

cheers for the help guys

Post by al » Thu May 19, 2005 4:37 pm

jaffa · Post by **jaffa** » Fri May 20, 2005 6:35 am

scotty303 wrote:
why do ppl say things they no nothing about

Don't worry about it, some people make a habit of it

yelloisfriedegg · Post by **yelloisfriedegg** » Fri May 20, 2005 7:19 am

scotty303 wrote: why do ppl say things they no nothing about

http://www.ukbusinesspark.co.uk/ccs55905.htm

CCM Motorcycles
CCM Motorcycles of Blackburn has gone into receivership with debts of about Ã‚Â£10m. 12-Aug-2004

http://www.localrevs.co.uk/Reviews/Inte ... ogarty.htm

Michaela Fogarty
Why IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢m Backing CCM by Michaela Fogarty. Michaela Fogarty may have waved goodbye to the World Superbike circuit but her heart is still firmly on tow wheels Ã¢â‚¬â€œ and sheÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s about to carve out a new career for herself in the motorcycle industry.

She is joining niche-market CCM Motorcycles Ltd as a roving ambassador to help raise the companyÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s profile through the UK and Europe.

Her brief is to spread the message that CCMÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s hand-built road and off-road bikes are a quality product that represents fun, practicality, manageability and individuality. Having seen the product at first-hand, she has now made a financial investment in CCM, which is based in her home town of Blackburn, Lancashire.
Michaela Fogarty told us why she has decided to become a financial backer to CCM Motorcycles. "When you walk into the CCM factory, thereÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s a buzz about the place," she said. "you can feel it in the air. You just know that this is a business thatÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s going somewhere and I want to be part of it."

"I used to get the same feeling in the paddock at World Superbike meetings Ã¢â‚¬â€œ you canÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t quite put you finger on what it is but I suppose itÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s excitement and expectation. IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ve always been with a winner and I know CCM will maintain that." Michaela, who was showing off CCMÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s range of street-legal machines at the opening of the Bike Show at the NEC, described how during 15 years of travelling the world, she new saw a British bike in any of the paddocks.

She said: " ThereÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s obviously a huge market out there, so why shouldnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t Britain have its share?

I know I can help CCM have a large slice of the action and in doing so I can see my investment grow. ThatÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s what excites me and thatÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s why IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢m involved with CCM."

Thats good news that they sorted you out though , you can get back to whupping sports bikes on back roads now , my choice would be Braemar to Spittal of Glenshee , mine will be the r e d bike in the car park , I'll be indoors , probably on my second coffee by the time you get there

They sell petrol too as you'll probably need to fill up as it's more than 50 miles from Aberdeen :I can't believe it's not butter!

grantwils · Post by **grantwils** » Fri May 20, 2005 8:26 am

Post by **Gazza** » Fri May 20, 2005 10:41 am

yelloisfriedegg wrote:
my choice would be Braemar to Spittal of Glenshee

The A93 is hardly what I'd call a back road Andy. How about the Cairn o Mount road between Strachan and the top. That'd be about fair.

yelloisfriedegg · Post by **yelloisfriedegg** » Fri May 20, 2005 10:46 am

Gazza wrote: The A93 is hardly what I'd call a back road Andy. How about the Cairn o Mount road between Strachan and the top. That'd be about fair.

no , you be fair , Mr Motard told me to choose my road so I did , but hey I'm flexible , cairn o' mount it is , are you going to have a flask of coffee ready for me at the top ? , I reckon I'll still be on my second cup :I can't believe it's not butter!

Post by **Gazza** » Fri May 20, 2005 11:00 am

yelloisfriedegg wrote:
Gazza wrote: The A93 is hardly what I'd call a back road Andy. How about the Cairn o Mount road between Strachan and the top. That'd be about fair.
no , you be fair , Mr Motard told me to choose my road so I did , but hey I'm flexible , cairn o' mount it is , are you going to have a flask of coffee ready for me at the top ? , I reckon I'll still be on my second cup :I can't believe it's not butter!

Sorry, I must have missed the bit where he said to choose the road. I didn't miss the bit where he said he'd never been passed on a B road though.

I've suggested a B road that gives you both a chance as there's both fast and slow bits. Choosing the A93 was unfair. You can just about do all of that bit at a speed of the CCM won't even reach.

Post by **Gazza** » Fri May 20, 2005 11:01 am

yelloisfriedegg wrote:are you going to have a flask of coffee ready for me at the top ? , I reckon I'll still be on my second cup :I can't believe it's not butter!

Probably, but I'll make sure it's not too hot just in case... :I can't believe it's not butter!

yelloisfriedegg · Post by **yelloisfriedegg** » Fri May 20, 2005 11:11 am

Gazza wrote: Sorry, I must have missed the bit where he said to choose the road

nope , I imagined that bit , I've just read his post again , oops

Gazza wrote: I've suggested a B road that gives you both a chance as there's both fast and slow bits. Choosing the A93 was unfair. You can just about do all of that bit at a speed of the CCM won't even reach.

I reckon I can do at least 60% of the road from Strachan to the top of the cairn at a speed that the Motard won't get to either , I only need to do the other 40% at a speed equal to or slightly faster than Scotty and he's toast , where's my coffee ? :I can't believe it's not butter!

Post by **Gazza** » Fri May 20, 2005 11:17 am

yelloisfriedegg wrote:
I reckon I can do at least 60% of the road from Strachan to the top of the cairn at a speed that the Motard won't get to either , I only need to do the other 40% at a speed equal to or slightly faster than Scotty and he's toast , where's my coffee ? :I can't believe it's not butter!

60/40 at least gives him a chance....and he did say ANY B road.

yelloisfriedegg wrote: where's my coffee ? :I can't believe it's not butter!

It'll be on top of the fuel can I'll bring for Scotty.

:I can't believe it's not butter!

Max Power · Post by **Max Power** » Fri May 20, 2005 12:07 pm

Of course this is all just male macho posturing as I cannot belive any one on this website would even consider racing on the highways of Aberdeenshire.

We are all upstanding honest well manored pillars of the community.....aren't we?